1 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:48,080 good morning Atlantis and to let you 2 00:02:03,130 --> 00:01:50,250 know Bonnie run help with the wakeup 3 00:02:14,100 --> 00:02:07,540 good morning Sam a lot of clear and I 4 00:02:51,690 --> 00:02:14,110 think we're gonna be reluctant alone I 5 00:02:56,430 --> 00:02:54,150 while this work continues in the space 6 00:02:58,290 --> 00:02:56,440 lab science module the entry team of 7 00:03:01,559 --> 00:02:58,300 flight controllers led by entry flight 8 00:03:03,690 --> 00:03:01,569 director Wayne Hale has been on console 9 00:03:06,150 --> 00:03:03,700 since about two o'clock this morning as 10 00:03:08,610 --> 00:03:06,160 they cycle themselves into the same 11 00:03:10,470 --> 00:03:08,620 shift they'll work tomorrow in support 12 00:03:12,750 --> 00:03:10,480 of all the preparations required for 13 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:12,760 Atlantis as deorbit burn and return to 14 00:03:16,710 --> 00:03:14,890 the Kennedy Space Center entry flight 15 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:16,720 director Wayne Hale has already had one 16 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:18,130 weather briefing from the spaceflight 17 00:03:22,530 --> 00:03:20,110 meteorology group this morning is 18 00:03:25,020 --> 00:03:22,540 expecting a more detailed weather 19 00:03:27,420 --> 00:03:25,030 briefing from those forecasters about a 20 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:27,430 half an hour from now as he continues to 21 00:03:32,699 --> 00:03:30,610 formulate his strategy and that of the 22 00:03:34,890 --> 00:03:32,709 entry team to present to the mission 23 00:03:39,140 --> 00:03:34,900 management team of top NASA managers and 24 00:03:43,949 --> 00:03:42,569 and a Space Lab Houston for Bonnie to 25 00:04:09,920 --> 00:03:43,959 related arm we just need to know how 26 00:04:09,930 --> 00:05:33,390 200ml 27 00:05:38,439 --> 00:05:35,740 special I abuse and talk Pharrell and 28 00:05:40,749 --> 00:05:38,449 I'll B&B advises just to go ahead and 29 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:40,759 proceed they did get your question and 30 00:06:02,880 --> 00:05:57,300 did the cute part of a lot books he did 31 00:06:14,790 --> 00:06:02,890 the programming in the controller I copy 32 00:06:17,790 --> 00:06:14,800 that we accepted to really run all right 33 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:17,800 let me start with a big picture question 34 00:06:22,830 --> 00:06:20,410 commander gibson one of this mission was 35 00:06:24,990 --> 00:06:22,840 to go up and get norm thagard and to do 36 00:06:27,990 --> 00:06:25,000 some long-term experiments about 37 00:06:29,580 --> 00:06:28,000 long-term space days but the other part 38 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:29,590 of it was to prove it could be done 39 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:31,450 technically to prove it could be done 40 00:06:36,210 --> 00:06:33,250 politically that we could work with the 41 00:06:38,280 --> 00:06:36,220 Russians put those on a balance and tell 42 00:06:45,090 --> 00:06:38,290 me which was the most important part of 43 00:06:47,100 --> 00:06:45,100 this flight Nancy I guess it's hard to 44 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:47,110 say that one was more important than the 45 00:06:52,590 --> 00:06:48,610 other because they all had their very 46 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:52,600 specific purposes you mentioned that it 47 00:06:56,460 --> 00:06:54,370 was done to show that it could be done I 48 00:06:59,310 --> 00:06:56,470 think we really integrated it more into 49 00:07:02,100 --> 00:06:59,320 a a long-term picture than just to go 50 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:02,110 show that it could be done we are all 51 00:07:05,550 --> 00:07:03,850 interested in building International 52 00:07:07,140 --> 00:07:05,560 Space Station and working together and 53 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:07,150 making that work and this is one of the 54 00:07:12,300 --> 00:07:10,090 first steps on the way we have divided 55 00:07:14,610 --> 00:07:12,310 it up to call what we call phase one and 56 00:07:16,830 --> 00:07:14,620 then leading into phase 2 phase one is 57 00:07:19,590 --> 00:07:16,840 the flights to mirror and those are 58 00:07:21,150 --> 00:07:19,600 doing many of the projects many of the 59 00:07:23,820 --> 00:07:21,160 techniques many of the tests that will 60 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:23,830 be doing in phase 2 so this is just one 61 00:07:30,270 --> 00:07:25,690 small part of the of the whole overall 62 00:07:32,220 --> 00:07:30,280 picture again commander Gibson norm 63 00:07:34,650 --> 00:07:32,230 thagard has been pretty open about 64 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:34,660 saying that this is likely to be his 65 00:07:41,580 --> 00:07:38,770 last flight I'm wondering about you how 66 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:41,590 likely are you to fly again and what is 67 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:43,690 it that NASA could offer you after you 68 00:07:47,460 --> 00:07:45,850 have done what you have said is pretty 69 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:47,470 much the pirating challenge of a 70 00:07:54,750 --> 00:07:53,170 lifetime well fancy I guess I had to 71 00:07:57,390 --> 00:07:54,760 admit that's a pretty good question and 72 00:07:59,100 --> 00:07:57,400 I've been wondering to myself well gee 73 00:08:00,270 --> 00:07:59,110 what what am I going to do after this 74 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:00,280 one 75 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:02,290 oh you know if I don't know that I need 76 00:08:06,030 --> 00:08:04,810 to top this one but how am I going to 77 00:08:08,010 --> 00:08:06,040 get a more interesting and more 78 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:08,020 challenging flight in the future after 79 00:08:15,510 --> 00:08:11,410 this and the answer is i guess i don't 80 00:08:18,510 --> 00:08:15,520 know i'm not exactly sure when i move to 81 00:08:20,159 --> 00:08:18,520 next or what what i do within NASA I 82 00:08:21,540 --> 00:08:20,169 think I've learned quite a few things 83 00:08:25,260 --> 00:08:21,550 that would be very useful and very 84 00:08:27,870 --> 00:08:25,270 valuable to NASA maybe this is the last 85 00:08:29,430 --> 00:08:27,880 time I fly I don't know I guess I'm 86 00:08:31,409 --> 00:08:29,440 keeping an open mind and I'm keeping all 87 00:08:35,219 --> 00:08:31,419 the options open still at this point 88 00:08:37,649 --> 00:08:35,229 Nancy let me ask Greg Harbaugh a 89 00:08:40,589 --> 00:08:37,659 question you've had the chance to talk 90 00:08:43,230 --> 00:08:40,599 with norm thagard and he has said that 91 00:08:46,590 --> 00:08:43,240 three months in space is doable but that 92 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:46,600 six months or a year is in his mind 93 00:08:51,030 --> 00:08:48,490 pretty difficult thing to do I'm just 94 00:08:53,970 --> 00:08:51,040 wondering would you be interested in a 95 00:08:55,680 --> 00:08:53,980 long-term stay and what is it that you 96 00:08:56,970 --> 00:08:55,690 have what is your reaction to what norm 97 00:08:59,490 --> 00:08:56,980 thagard has had to say is that 98 00:09:05,250 --> 00:08:59,500 discouraged you in any way from wanting 99 00:09:06,570 --> 00:09:05,260 to make a long stay yourself Lillian see 100 00:09:09,540 --> 00:09:06,580 I don't know that I'm a candidate for 101 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:09,550 that kind of a flight I think having a 102 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:12,970 medical doctor do that kind of long 103 00:09:21,180 --> 00:09:17,770 duration activity to do the self 104 00:09:23,100 --> 00:09:21,190 analysis self-diagnosis that would be 105 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:23,110 most useful from a scientific return 106 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:26,970 standpoint would be probably the optimum 107 00:09:33,860 --> 00:09:30,730 but nonetheless answer to your question 108 00:09:36,810 --> 00:09:33,870 I'm not sure that I have the mindset to 109 00:09:39,329 --> 00:09:36,820 go stay someplace for three to six or 110 00:09:41,250 --> 00:09:39,339 twelve months if I wasn't going 111 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:41,260 somewhere I think maybe if we were on 112 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:43,210 our way to Mars I'd be very interested 113 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:47,290 but going up and staying on Space 114 00:09:52,950 --> 00:09:49,930 Station I don't know but I haven't been 115 00:09:55,860 --> 00:09:52,960 confronted with that question and I 116 00:09:59,400 --> 00:09:55,870 guess I'll beg off until somebody asked 117 00:10:02,190 --> 00:09:59,410 me whether I really want to do it put me 118 00:10:03,990 --> 00:10:02,200 in that position let me ask commander 119 00:10:07,260 --> 00:10:04,000 deser off the question and he spent 120 00:10:10,710 --> 00:10:07,270 three months aboard mir tell me what it 121 00:10:13,439 --> 00:10:10,720 is about your character your personnel 122 00:10:16,139 --> 00:10:13,449 that makes you able to stay for long 123 00:10:18,990 --> 00:10:16,149 terms in space and would you be 124 00:10:20,699 --> 00:10:19,000 interested in six months a year or maybe 125 00:10:22,829 --> 00:10:20,709 even a length of time it would take to 126 00:10:25,319 --> 00:10:22,839 go to Mars what would make you able to 127 00:10:27,509 --> 00:10:25,329 do that personally pesotum user data 128 00:10:30,150 --> 00:10:27,519 across commander Aduro we really number 129 00:10:32,879 --> 00:10:30,160 two stands a bullet rock mr. Hollister 130 00:10:36,059 --> 00:10:32,889 escherichia sepia chart actual character 131 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:36,069 a tapas wallet one video editing by 132 00:10:41,429 --> 00:10:39,370 Bhavani aniston see he believes into the 133 00:10:49,050 --> 00:10:41,439 Sony of little a pallet of 134 00:10:54,079 --> 00:10:49,060 crystallization acrylic edition well 135 00:11:00,030 --> 00:10:54,089 actually longer the flight the more 136 00:11:02,490 --> 00:11:00,040 person becomes more intense in all of 137 00:11:09,869 --> 00:11:02,500 his aspects in the good and kind of the 138 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:09,879 not-so-good make long flights on 139 00:11:15,689 --> 00:11:12,970 existing in new new stations and 140 00:11:19,100 --> 00:11:15,699 stations that are working on a more 141 00:11:21,299 --> 00:11:19,110 contemporary level and are more 142 00:11:23,369 --> 00:11:21,309 technologically advanced or is certainly 143 00:11:26,999 --> 00:11:23,379 interesting and I would with great 144 00:11:29,939 --> 00:11:27,009 pleasure would agree to do this if I 145 00:11:31,949 --> 00:11:29,949 have the opportunity to fly to the new 146 00:11:38,929 --> 00:11:31,959 alpha station I think this would be very 147 00:11:43,819 --> 00:11:38,939 interesting to try and how this would be 148 00:11:47,939 --> 00:11:43,829 it would be even more interesting if 149 00:11:50,910 --> 00:11:47,949 there would be a big international team 150 00:11:52,829 --> 00:11:50,920 that consists not only of Americans in 151 00:11:56,670 --> 00:11:52,839 Russian cosmonauts and astronauts but 152 00:12:01,049 --> 00:11:56,680 also astronauts and cosmonauts from 153 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:01,059 other countries commander Desert Storm 154 00:12:06,449 --> 00:12:03,370 has said he got lonely up there 155 00:12:08,309 --> 00:12:06,459 did you get lonely up there commandeer 156 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:08,319 the desert of northern Taggarts gazelles 157 00:12:14,759 --> 00:12:10,569 to immobility noka number two Stan save 158 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:19,540 no no I wasn't lonely actually there was 159 00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:22,010 a lot of work to do and there wasn't 160 00:12:30,759 --> 00:12:24,320 even time to think about missing 161 00:12:36,930 --> 00:12:30,769 anything norm was somewhat lonely i but 162 00:12:39,519 --> 00:12:36,940 i wouldn't say very lonely and he was so 163 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:39,529 loaded down with work the same way that 164 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:41,930 we were with all sorts of technical 165 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:49,970 issues norm wasn't loaded down so much 166 00:12:57,370 --> 00:12:54,610 that we we were a little late in 167 00:13:02,050 --> 00:12:57,380 accepting a new model module with new 168 00:13:03,579 --> 00:13:02,060 equipment linea not leave charlie 169 00:13:06,819 --> 00:13:03,589 Precourt out of this you know always 170 00:13:08,860 --> 00:13:06,829 there are detractors to the space 171 00:13:10,900 --> 00:13:08,870 program it comes up every year for a 172 00:13:12,370 --> 00:13:10,910 vote it's going to be the space station 173 00:13:13,990 --> 00:13:12,380 is going to be coming up again in 174 00:13:16,329 --> 00:13:14,000 Congress undoubtedly there will be those 175 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:16,339 who try to kill it are there people that 176 00:13:19,300 --> 00:13:17,690 you just have to write off who are 177 00:13:20,650 --> 00:13:19,310 always going to do this or after a 178 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:20,660 mission it's been given this much 179 00:13:24,939 --> 00:13:22,850 international publicity and talked about 180 00:13:26,620 --> 00:13:24,949 this much in terms of success do you 181 00:13:28,449 --> 00:13:26,630 find it frustrating that you have to 182 00:13:34,420 --> 00:13:28,459 fight these battles over and over again 183 00:13:36,309 --> 00:13:34,430 I look at it to respects I think it's 184 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:36,319 good that there's some skeptics out 185 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:37,850 there to keep us honest and make sure 186 00:13:41,500 --> 00:13:40,010 that we produce the maximum product for 187 00:13:43,059 --> 00:13:41,510 the dollar that's spent on the program 188 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:43,069 on the other hand there's a little bit 189 00:13:47,139 --> 00:13:45,410 of frustration that if you work in 190 00:13:49,150 --> 00:13:47,149 something like this like we do it's our 191 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:49,160 life and we are very very dedicated to 192 00:13:52,540 --> 00:13:51,290 it we believe in it completely and it's 193 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:52,550 somewhat frustrating that we can't 194 00:13:59,110 --> 00:13:55,970 communicate how important it is to those 195 00:14:00,220 --> 00:13:59,120 people who doubt it and I guess it kind 196 00:14:01,990 --> 00:14:00,230 of falls back to your earlier question 197 00:14:03,939 --> 00:14:02,000 to hoot about what was the most 198 00:14:06,970 --> 00:14:03,949 important part of the flight whether it 199 00:14:08,710 --> 00:14:06,980 be political or technical I think what 200 00:14:10,990 --> 00:14:08,720 really goes on here is that there's a 201 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:11,000 little bit of everything for everybody 202 00:14:14,829 --> 00:14:13,130 in what we're doing in space whether it 203 00:14:16,300 --> 00:14:14,839 be research whether it be international 204 00:14:18,850 --> 00:14:16,310 relationships whether it be new 205 00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:18,860 technologies for everyday life on earth 206 00:14:22,180 --> 00:14:20,510 whether it be from motivating our 207 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:22,190 children will it be for education you 208 00:14:26,199 --> 00:14:24,050 can look all different directions and 209 00:14:27,460 --> 00:14:26,209 what we do impacts every different area 210 00:14:29,950 --> 00:14:27,470 of our lives so 211 00:14:31,570 --> 00:14:29,960 yes there is some frustration but it 212 00:14:33,940 --> 00:14:31,580 keeps us honest and I think it's healthy 213 00:14:35,980 --> 00:14:33,950 and that's our process that was made our 214 00:14:38,650 --> 00:14:35,990 country strong and now I think that same 215 00:14:40,090 --> 00:14:38,660 process will make our entire globe 216 00:14:42,820 --> 00:14:40,100 strong internationally as we join 217 00:14:43,900 --> 00:14:42,830 together one of the biggest results I 218 00:14:46,150 --> 00:14:43,910 think of this flight is that we've 219 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:46,160 demonstrated a willingness both sides 220 00:14:50,770 --> 00:14:49,610 and now internationally to to carry on 221 00:14:53,530 --> 00:14:50,780 with this kind of project and it's 222 00:14:55,180 --> 00:14:53,540 really encouraging well that brings to 223 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:55,190 mind something that Greg Harbaugh said 224 00:15:03,130 --> 00:14:58,970 before he left which is that remember 225 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:03,140 asking him about something what he 226 00:15:08,140 --> 00:15:05,090 thought would come of this and and Greg 227 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:08,150 you said that 20 years ago there was a 228 00:15:13,630 --> 00:15:11,450 lot of Hope after a parlor freeze but 229 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:13,640 the danger now is sitting back and not 230 00:15:18,550 --> 00:15:15,650 committing ourselves the same thing that 231 00:15:20,620 --> 00:15:18,560 happened 20 years ago if it were up to 232 00:15:22,300 --> 00:15:20,630 you what would you do right this minute 233 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:22,310 right now or as soon as you got back on 234 00:15:30,850 --> 00:15:24,410 the ground to keep this going to keep 235 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:30,860 this interest to generate it what would 236 00:15:35,710 --> 00:15:34,250 I do personally be fancy and what would 237 00:15:40,660 --> 00:15:35,720 you tell NASA to do and what would you 238 00:15:43,530 --> 00:15:40,670 do personally well I think we've done 239 00:15:47,890 --> 00:15:43,540 with what we can do on a personal level 240 00:15:50,890 --> 00:15:47,900 we've accomplished our mission you know 241 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:50,900 we set out for a very with a very 242 00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:53,810 challenging set of objectives and we 243 00:16:02,800 --> 00:15:56,110 satisfied those and I think we did it 244 00:16:05,950 --> 00:16:02,810 very well with regard to NASA you know I 245 00:16:10,300 --> 00:16:05,960 think we could we need to do a good job 246 00:16:14,460 --> 00:16:10,310 of telling the American people what what 247 00:16:17,020 --> 00:16:14,470 we do and why we do it and to follow up 248 00:16:21,340 --> 00:16:17,030 charlie's point to let folks know why it 249 00:16:25,690 --> 00:16:21,350 is worthwhile any on the tax dollar that 250 00:16:28,750 --> 00:16:25,700 the taxpayer spends that pays for our 251 00:16:30,970 --> 00:16:28,760 budget you know we we do an awful lot if 252 00:16:33,310 --> 00:16:30,980 you look back and created some sort of 253 00:16:35,650 --> 00:16:33,320 an anthology at will we've done just in 254 00:16:37,730 --> 00:16:35,660 the shuttle program with all the 255 00:16:40,130 --> 00:16:37,740 satellite deploys and retreat 256 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:40,140 season and some of the amazing fantastic 257 00:16:46,010 --> 00:16:42,810 things we've done with just the space 258 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:46,020 shuttle it's really quite an impressive 259 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:49,410 list of accomplishments and I think the 260 00:16:53,660 --> 00:16:52,290 American public needs to have that kept 261 00:16:56,330 --> 00:16:53,670 in front of them so that they appreciate 262 00:16:58,790 --> 00:16:56,340 what the space program is really doing 263 00:17:03,620 --> 00:16:58,800 for them and I guess I would try to be 264 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:03,630 aggressive at getting that word out okay 265 00:17:07,970 --> 00:17:06,090 I think I lost the the end of the answer 266 00:17:12,260 --> 00:17:07,980 to that question but let me go ahead and 267 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:12,270 ask 11 more of commander des Arras if he 268 00:17:17,540 --> 00:17:15,570 can can hear me which is what is the 269 00:17:19,220 --> 00:17:17,550 saying that he is looking forward the 270 00:17:21,380 --> 00:17:19,230 real human thing that he is looking 271 00:17:22,790 --> 00:17:21,390 forward to doing the most when he gets 272 00:17:24,350 --> 00:17:22,800 back does he want to take a walk in the 273 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:24,360 woods you want to take a hot shower away 274 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:26,730 the first real human thing after saying 275 00:17:32,330 --> 00:17:28,770 his family that he wants to do when he 276 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:32,340 gets home no school today is busy but 277 00:17:37,460 --> 00:17:33,810 can yet swash watya tangible solutions 278 00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:37,470 assaulting Andrew Guevara's stove a 279 00:17:43,460 --> 00:17:41,280 rattata stilt positive okok we presume 280 00:17:46,670 --> 00:17:43,470 latisse if theta so I similarly stop 281 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:46,680 evocative is still at theorem non 282 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:49,770 premier Reynaud garage a douche puku let 283 00:18:02,540 --> 00:17:58,290 palazzo what taco baroda yeah very first 284 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:02,550 thing I probably want to do is to stand 285 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:04,650 under a hot shower for a pretty long 286 00:18:11,540 --> 00:18:08,490 time and I've missed that and second 287 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:11,550 thing with I'd like to meet with my 288 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:15,930 family with my kids my wife to talk to 289 00:18:25,010 --> 00:18:19,410 socialize take a little walk if there is 290 00:18:29,180 --> 00:18:25,020 such an opportunity immediately tell you 291 00:18:32,110 --> 00:18:29,190 the truth I miss I miss people pretty 292 00:18:34,550 --> 00:18:32,120 much and kind of the everyday earth life 293 00:18:37,010 --> 00:18:34,560 one last real quick question for hoot 294 00:18:38,420 --> 00:18:37,020 its twenty years since Apollo Soyuz 20 295 00:18:44,350 --> 00:18:38,430 years from now what do you want people 296 00:18:50,180 --> 00:18:48,140 Danny I hope they'll say it was it was a 297 00:18:52,850 --> 00:18:50,190 very good success I hope they'll say 298 00:18:56,450 --> 00:18:52,860 that it had been an incredibly long dry 299 00:18:59,150 --> 00:18:56,460 spell between apollo-soyuz and SDS 71 300 00:19:02,090 --> 00:18:59,160 but then look at all the other missions 301 00:19:04,850 --> 00:19:02,100 that we did and look at how SDS 71 302 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:04,860 helped open the way between the United 303 00:19:13,420 --> 00:19:07,410 States and Russia and that we existed in 304 00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:16,700 and Lena's we have you an air-to-ground 305 00:19:28,580 --> 00:19:25,520 one through my life okay so you're clear 306 00:19:31,940 --> 00:19:28,590 lanĂºs you are loud and clear on here to 307 00:21:00,399 --> 00:19:31,950 ground one plus go over and try a UHF 308 00:21:16,590 --> 00:21:03,440 Atlantis unbelievable picture nor by 309 00:21:27,490 --> 00:21:20,650 well story that this loop is still a